tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post3150320407294408156..comments2024-03-17T08:30:21.129+00:00Comments on Open and Shut?: The OA Interviews: Keith Jeffery, UK Science & Technology Facilities CouncilRichard Poynderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-30653611236885433182012-07-08T10:48:04.895+00:002012-07-08T10:48:04.895+00:00FEEDING THE WORLD
The answer is so familiar, and ...<b>FEEDING THE WORLD</b><br /><br />The answer is so familiar, and so obvious, and so ignored:<br /> <br />Yes, universal Libre Green is better than universal Gratis Green. And perhaps universal Libre Gold is better still.<br /> <br />But we don't even have 22% Gratis Green yet. And Libre (Green or Gold) is much harder to get, and further from reach, than Gratis Green. And universal Gratis Green is the fastest and surest way to get not only 100% Gratis Green, but to eventually reach Libre Green and Gold too.<br /> <br />So why do we go on and on and on fussing about Libre and Gold instead of first mandating Gratis Green? It's like fussing over the lack of sustainable organic food and letting people keep starving, instead of feeding them non-organic food that's already available and enough to feed everyone for now.<br /> Stevan Harnadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14374474060972737847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-24558193435030561342012-07-07T07:20:57.285+00:002012-07-07T07:20:57.285+00:00Marcin; the response from Peter via Richard is abs...Marcin; the response from Peter via Richard is absolutely , correct. However there are some further twists. (1) it is worth checking carefully the contract of employers with an organisation for clauses on IP (Intellectual property). It may well be that author agreements with publishers are invalid and thus the organisation is free to do what it will with the green article; (2) an organisation could - on behalf of its employees as authors - negotiate with publishers (the ones used predominantly by its employees as authors) for libre rights on the green articles.<br /><br />My hope is that by shaming the publishers on the basis of double-dipping, restricting the progres of research etc we may get movement. Recently even Elsevier moved in the face of researcher antipathy!Keith G Jefferynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-46080527760553818012012-07-06T13:07:07.533+00:002012-07-06T13:07:07.533+00:00Marcin, Peter Suber has commented on your question...Marcin, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Suber" rel="nofollow">Peter Suber</a> has commented on your question in this way:<br /><br />"Marcin is generally right that repositories can't authorize libre green on their own, and therefore depend on permissions from others. That's why libre green is harder than libre gold. <br /><br />"But libre green is not at all impossible, and in fact it's growing. See sections 2 and 5 of my article, ‘The rise of libre OA,’ in the <a href="http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/06-02-12.htm#libre" rel="nofollow">June 2012 SOAN</a>."Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-59604896247181250312012-07-06T11:17:52.687+00:002012-07-06T11:17:52.687+00:00Thanks for very interesting points. Can you elabor...Thanks for very interesting points. Can you elaborate more on the libre access to 'green' papers? <br /><br />My understanding is that every publisher and journal can impose its own licensing terms on the authors. Even if they allow self-archiving, they usually do NOT allow <i>redistribution</i> of the paper (essential part of 'libre', right?). Moreover, every single paper in repository may come with a different license and different legal caveats buried inside, so the prospective reader would have to study a brand new license each time he aproaches new paper. Am I right?<br /><br />How can 'libre' OA be possible in such case? And how is the problem of multiple licenses resolved?Marcin Wojnarskihttps://twitter.com/wojnarskinoreply@blogger.com