tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post6308228621481537485..comments2024-03-17T08:30:21.129+00:00Comments on Open and Shut?: Open Access Mandates: Ensuring ComplianceRichard Poynderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-38683673286758337772012-06-01T22:45:01.540+00:002012-06-01T22:45:01.540+00:00Hi Richard,
Apologies for coming late to this dis...Hi Richard,<br /><br />Apologies for coming late to this discussion. <br /><br />We estimate that more than 60% of manuscripts posted on PMC are published in journals where the publishers deposit manuscripts on behalf of authors. <br /><br />* What percentage of NIH compliance comes from publisher deposit? <br /><br />* What is the compliance level for authors depositing on their own?<br /><br />Thanks for your insight,<br /><br />Alicia<br /><br />Dr Alicia Wise<br />Director of Universal Access<br />Elsevier<br />@wisealicAlicia Wise @wisealichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17895015713727977331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-21042488249890732832012-05-24T17:26:17.533+00:002012-05-24T17:26:17.533+00:00Thanks for the follow up. This sounds like what ma...Thanks for the follow up. This sounds like what many expected-- "NIH does not currently collect statistics on compliance efforts." <br /><br />In my mind I was contemplating whether a FOIA request would do any good here, but it sounds like with the lack of record keeping would mean it would produce little additional information.davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562524899473113626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-84289218460612648712012-05-21T12:50:08.932+00:002012-05-21T12:50:08.932+00:00I have to say I find it incomprehensible that any ...I have to say I find it incomprehensible that any mandate's compliance rate is not 100%.<br /><br />If I pay a merchant to deliver a new oven to my home and install it, but they just dump it outside my front door and walk away, then the very least sanction I will impose is never giving them my money again -- that's if I don't seek legal redress.<br /><br />So if NIH or Wellcome pays someone to carry out a research programme and deposit the resulting papers in PubMed, and if they don't bother to do that, then the very least sanction the funder imposes should be to never give that group money again.<br /><br />I don't see how this could be controversial. If you're paid to do something, you do it.Mike Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06039663158335543317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-1171755920831275182012-05-19T12:00:08.868+00:002012-05-19T12:00:08.868+00:00How to Maximize Compliance With Funder OA Mandates...<b>How to Maximize Compliance With Funder OA Mandates: Collaborate With Institutional Mandates</b><br /><br />Here are my hypotheses as to why neither NIH nor the Wellcome Trust (WT) has a compliance rate of 100% (and why NIH has a somewhat higher compliance rate):<br /><br /><b>1. How To Comply.</b> Both the NIH and WT mandates designate Gold OA publishing as one of the means of fulfilling the mandate, instead of uniformly designating fundee self-archiving as the sole means of compliance (whether or not the fundee publishes in a Gold OA journal.<br /><br /><b>2. Who Complies.</b> Funder mandates only apply to fundees: only fundees are bound by them. Yet fulfillment can be done by either fundees or non-fundees (publishers, especially in the case of WT), instead of uniformly designating fundee self-archiving as the sole means of compliance.<br /><br /><b>3. When To Comply.</b> The designated timing for compliance with both mandates is not immediately upon publication -- instead of uniformly designating fundee self-archiving immediately upon publication as the sole means of compliance (even if the self-archived draft is not made immediately OA). As noted, it is in publishers' interests to make compliance as delayed as possible, and to leave it in their hands rather than the fundees'.<br /><br /><b>4. What Version To Deposit.</b> It contributes to the delay in compliance and the ambiguity as to who is fulfilling the mandate (the fundee or the publisher) if compliance can wait for the publisher's PDF instead of uniformly designating fundee self-archiving of the refereed final draft immediately upon publication as the sole means of compliance (even if the self-archived draft is not made immediately OA and the publisher's PDF is optionally deposited later).<br /><br /><b>5. Where To Deposit.</b> Both NIH and WT grants stress direct deposit in PubMed Central (PMC), instead of uniformly designating fundee self-archiving of the refereed final draft in the fundee's own institutional reposiitory immediately upon publication as the sole means of compliance (even if the self-archived draft is not made immediately OA and the publisher's PDF is optionally deposited later), thereby recruiting fundees' institutions to monitor and ensure compliance with the fulfillment conditions of the grant (as institutions are always very eager to do!).<br /><br /><b>Institututional ID/OA Mandates Work.</b> None of these delays, ambiguities or uncertainties applies to (effective) <i>institutional mandates</i> such as U. Liege's model ID/OA (immediate-deposit/optional-access) mandate. Not only can author self-archiving in the institutional repository be designated by institutions as the sole means of submitting research for institutional reporting and performance assessment (as Cameron Neylon correctly points out), but institutions are in a position to monitor deposits continuously, not just when a research project grant (which may last for years) has elapsed.<br /><br /><b>Mutual Reinforcement Between Institutional and Funder Mandates.</b> In addition, designating institutional repository self-archiving as the means of compliance for both funder and institutional mandates motivates institutions to adopt self-archiving mandates of their own, for all of their research output, in all disciplines, not just NIH- or WT-funded research. (Institutions are the universal providers of all published research, funded and unfunded.) Funder mandates designating institutional deposit make institutional and funder mandates convergent and mutually reinforcing -- rather than divergent and competitive, as funder mandates requiring direct institution-external deposit in PMC (instead of just automated harvesting or export from institutional repositories) do.<br /><br /><b>Effective Institutional Mandates Can Generate 100% OA Globally.</b> The Liege model institutional ID/OA mandate really works. If funders and institutions worldwide collaborate, 100% OA can be reached not just for NIH and WT funded research but for all research.Stevan Harnadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14374474060972737847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-45192470387379165982012-05-19T09:39:03.596+00:002012-05-19T09:39:03.596+00:00Cameron Neylon posted this comment on Google+:
Ba...Cameron Neylon posted this comment on Google+:<br /><br /><i>Basically the reason for higher compliance with NIH as far as I can tell is that grant reporting is coupled into deposition. So you can't include a paper in your grant report unless it's in PMC. I haven't actually seen this in action myself but it's consistent with the fact that places like Liege get very high compliance with institutional mandates when reporting and review is technically tied into compliance.</i>Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-19181093849605136322012-05-19T06:30:02.687+00:002012-05-19T06:30:02.687+00:00Thanks for pointing out the dead link Bill. It sho...Thanks for pointing out the dead link Bill. It should be fixed now. <br /><br />Your message <i>was</i> posted on Liblicense, and indeed your <a href="http://listserv.crl.edu/wa.exe?A3=ind1205&L=LIBLICENSE-L&E=quoted-printable&P=591&B=--&T=text%2Fplain;%20charset=ISO-8859-1&header=1" rel="nofollow">guess</a> seems to have been pretty accurate!Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-89324865647783634772012-05-18T23:59:54.777+00:002012-05-18T23:59:54.777+00:00Thanks for following up on this, Richard. (I thin...Thanks for following up on this, Richard. (I think my request for actual data was bounced off the list, dunno why.)<br /><br />The link to the OSTP report (first A of Q&A) isn't working.Bill Hookerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366270586730870964noreply@blogger.com