tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post5184878542254606354..comments2024-03-17T08:30:21.129+00:00Comments on Open and Shut?: The Open Access Interviews: OMICS Publishing Group’s Srinu Babu GedelaRichard Poynderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-15119303115115712692017-06-04T13:24:11.850+00:002017-06-04T13:24:11.850+00:00I find the term "harassment" to be such ...I find the term "harassment" to be such an abused term. Any contradictory action seems to nowadays be falling into the category of harassment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-90276177077306725152017-06-02T17:55:59.942+00:002017-06-02T17:55:59.942+00:00In Anglo-USA law price is a fundamental term of a ...In Anglo-USA law price is a fundamental term of a contract which must be agreed explicitly and exactly by the parties; there is no responsibility on any party to search thru a web page or any other document to determine the price. It is not sufficient for there to be notice of a price; the precise price must be agreed, otherwise any agreement is too indeterminate to be legally binding. <br /><br />This is in distinction from other terms, such as those about copyright. While other terms are important (as the host of this blog argues elsewhere) they are not a fundamental term and agreement to reasonable or expected terms may be inferred from a party clicking an accept button or from a similar action.<br /><br />2 issues arise from 'Anonymous' of June 02, 2017 5:01 pm.<br /><br />The 1st issue is if and when a legally binding agreement was formed. This depends on if and when there was agreement to all fundamental terms and an agreement to be legally bound. It is often difficult to determine precisely when any contract was formed and there are often legitimate grounds for disagreement amongst properly instructed practitioners and courts before fully argued cases.<br /><br />If I were representing Anonymous I would argue that there was no contract because Anonymous did not understand the price, a fundamental term. I would argue further and rather more speculatively that Anonymous did not understand the nature of the other party OMICS, which I would also argue is a fundamental term.<br /><br />Regardless of whether there was a contract OMICS is clearly harassing Anonymous, at least on Anonymous' account. In some jurisdictions such harassment is illegal and can be stopped by complaining to the jurisdiction's consumer or fair trading body. In some federations such behaviour would breach not only the regional jurisdiction's fair trading laws but also the national government's laws on the use of telecommunications, so federal laws and bodies should also be considered.<br /><br />If there is no effective consumer protection body there is unlikely to be an effective legal remedy to harassment. If the harassment is intolerable it may be necessary to consider changing one's phone number and email address. <br /><br /><br />Gavin Moodiehttps://utoronto.academia.edu/GavinMoodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-78247182524894715852017-06-02T17:21:48.333+00:002017-06-02T17:21:48.333+00:00Well, why don't you just spam-list them? The t...Well, why don't you just spam-list them? The trick is never to read or see their emails, so you don't feel stressed or worse, guilty. <br />They have zero leverage on you, there was no agreed contract to a price. All they can do is to harass you. Leonid Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12737541382560079721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-70271574188490309312017-06-02T17:01:45.645+00:002017-06-02T17:01:45.645+00:00I was unfortunately lured by OMICS into signing up...I was unfortunately lured by OMICS into signing up as an editorial board member and submitting an invited manuscript which I thought would be free of charge as an ‘editorial member’. I quickly discovered the predatory nature of the journal and asked for my paper to be withdrawn immediately and I be removed from the board. I was removed from the board. However, I was then informed that either I need to pay $375.00 to withdraw the article or they will continue on with publication without my permission. They keep calling my personal phone, work, and emailing for $375 constantly (The Journal of Cancer Clinical Trials). Keep putting 24hr deadlines etc., in the subject lines of emails. This has been going on now for a week. This is ridiculous. Richard please help!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-62678612870914025442017-06-01T17:04:37.187+00:002017-06-01T17:04:37.187+00:00Firstly, you should have read the web-site of the ...Firstly, you should have read the web-site of the OMICS journal, and you would have seen clearly specified that there is an APC. So, in fact, it is your fault that you did not read the journal page carefully. All OMICS journals indicate that there are fees, but it is not clear what the precise amount is. For example, I randomly selected one journal from the OMICS set, Translational Biomedicine, and the costs are clearly specified:<br />http://www.imedpub.com/information-for-authors.php <br />http://www.imedpub.com/article-processing-charges.php <br />"Can I avoid paying article-processing charges (APCs)?<br />No, all authors have to pay the charges for publishing their articles. However, authors are considered for waiver or discounts only after encountering a genuine reason."<br />My own experience with OMICS has been that even after a written agreement to waiver fees, they failed to publish the paper after trying to force me to pay, so I just withdrew my paper and took it elsewhere. My experience tells me that unless you pay, OMICS will not publish your paper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-77538639736692001352017-06-01T15:09:19.025+00:002017-06-01T15:09:19.025+00:00In Anglo-USA law there was no contract because the...In Anglo-USA law there was no contract because there was no agreement on price, a fundamental term of any contract. So if you are sued it should be very easy to defend, even by a lay defendant representing themself.Gavin Moodienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-21524047841453760132017-06-01T15:01:31.535+00:002017-06-01T15:01:31.535+00:00There is nothing they can do except not publishing...There is nothing they can do except not publishing your paper. Leonid Schneiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12737541382560079721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-86291653139776658932017-06-01T13:53:34.775+00:002017-06-01T13:53:34.775+00:00I am now having a bad experience with OMICS and ne...I am now having a bad experience with OMICS and need to ask you an advice ; i have been contacted by mail asking me to write a Commentary of one of my past works pubblicated in a real scientific paper. I submitted the commentary and they accepted it; in none of the e mail was written about the fee. I did not answered to final Galley proof but they wrote me it has been published.<br />Then after fiew days they asked me for the payment. It was not clear that this was required and and at this point i will not pay, nor publishing my work on this paper.<br />What happens if i don't pay the fee? will there be legal consequences?<br />Thanks for help!!riccardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07248889280077246972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-59297941453099334822017-01-13T03:26:14.324+00:002017-01-13T03:26:14.324+00:00Through all the long discussions and email posts, ...Through all the long discussions and email posts, I was kept surprised by the horribly erroneous English grammar of somebody who apparently spent some time in a respected institution like Stanford.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-82700005443187980052016-12-15T14:46:41.429+00:002016-12-15T14:46:41.429+00:00Dear Greg,
Please let me have the specific detail...Dear Greg,<br /><br />Please let me have the specific details. I can be contacted here: http://richardpoynder.co.uk/contact.html<br /><br />Richard<br />Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-20413912534750627912016-12-15T14:39:25.526+00:002016-12-15T14:39:25.526+00:00Dear Richar,
I am yet another countless researche...Dear Richar,<br /><br />I am yet another countless researcher that has seen his work published against his will by OMICS. <br /><br />I have also contacted the so-called reviewers who weren't even aware about the existence of this journal.<br /><br />I have sent them emails requesting them to withdraw this article as this threatens my scientific integrity but all I get in return are invoice reminders for publication fee.. They even started to call my hospital.<br /><br />I know you have helped so many researchers out there, I would be extremely grateful to ask for your help, once again.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br /><br />GregAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-8332570360029590502016-08-27T20:17:07.685+00:002016-08-27T20:17:07.685+00:00Glad I could help Basak.
Glad I could help Basak. <br />Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-48045428861212319542016-08-27T20:01:20.997+00:002016-08-27T20:01:20.997+00:00Thanks to Richard Poynder, I withdrawn my article ...Thanks to Richard Poynder, I withdrawn my article at the end. Thanks, thanks a lot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-10666362996336048762016-08-21T07:02:01.498+00:002016-08-21T07:02:01.498+00:00Dear Basak,
Ok, I have been in touch with OMICS a...Dear Basak,<br /><br />Ok, I have been in touch with OMICS and I believe the matter is now settled.<br /><br />Good luck with your future endeavours. <br /><br />For anyone else wanting assistance with OMICS issues I understand the person to contact is the Journals Manager, Ms. Mehaboobi.<br /><br />RichardRichard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-15862489824600796232016-08-18T14:18:30.855+00:002016-08-18T14:18:30.855+00:00Dear Richard, please help me I am so desperate. I ...Dear Richard, please help me I am so desperate. I sent an article to OMICS But I sent them wrong files that is named 'main text' because sended article has already been evaluated and accepted by another ISI journal two months before my submission. <br />OMICS sent me an acceptation and I wrote them below:<br /><br /><br />When I received your last email, I was shocked and disappointed because I saw that there had been an unbeliveable mistake.<br /><br />The name of the article that I tried to send you is titled: " A review on death <br /><br />However, when I saw your email, I noticed that I attached the wrong document as the main text!<br /><br />The manuscript which you accepted for publication is another article of mine and its evaluation process has already been finalized in another journal. The name of this article is: A Review On .........<br /><br />Due to my personal and unbelieveable mistake, I have to withdraw my article.<br /><br />I respect your publication policies so I am ready to make the payment for the withdrawal.<br /><br />I would really appreciate if you could reply.<br /><br />This issue is of great importance for me and your journal as well.<br /><br />I am looking forward to hearing from you.<br /><br />Kind Regards.<br /><br />But they did not reply my e mail. I am so desparate honestly. Please help me.<br />BasakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-81987248639174404922016-01-14T09:27:21.907+00:002016-01-14T09:27:21.907+00:00Being invited and publishing in one of the OMICS&#...Being invited and publishing in one of the OMICS' journals or going to an OMICS Conference is like being invited to a “dinner of fools”. Keep that in mind if you do not want to become the “village idiot”…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-52278841939476726542015-11-18T19:11:08.208+00:002015-11-18T19:11:08.208+00:00I have submitted my article to one of OMICS' j...I have submitted my article to one of OMICS' journal and I just found this blog. Now my concern is rising. I saw the fee they wrote on the web but dont know if there're going to be more problems e.g. charging for more. Should I withdraw my manuscript and find a better publisher or if there is no further problem, am I still be recommended to do so ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-4651573322266313162015-11-18T18:19:00.109+00:002015-11-18T18:19:00.109+00:00Why do OMICs feel the need to spam scientists ever...Why do OMICs feel the need to spam scientists every day with journals and meetings that they have absolutely no interest or experience in? The reputation of this particular publisher is a disgrace and their antics should be reported for harassment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-50273616983806216522015-09-08T07:01:35.370+00:002015-09-08T07:01:35.370+00:00How grateful I am for this fantastic outcome! this...How grateful I am for this fantastic outcome! this would not be achievable without Richard's help. I can not describe how thankful I am that my manuscript has been withdrawn without any fee. I hope that no one else is going to go through this experience like me. Let's raise awareness amongst researchers. <br /><br />Many Thanks for all your hard work.<br /><br /><br />MaryamMaryamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-17704065771729483822015-09-06T12:59:09.447+00:002015-09-06T12:59:09.447+00:00I have received the following message from OMICS w...I have received the following message from OMICS with regard to Maryam's request for help. As I read it, it would seem to imply that the requested withdrawal fee has now been waived.<br /><br /><i>Dear Richard, Explanation from Mehabbobi, Journals lead.</i><br /><br /><i>Journal of Women’s Health Issues & Care is always bound to principles which has published around 143 articles for free in past 3 years. We are proud to say that we did not charge any author/ reader until September 2014. We are working only to disseminate scientific research across the globe.</i><br /><br /><i>You know that a submission without publication doesn’t make any sense. 60% of articles received to our journal gets rejected for publication during the review & we do not charge them for the process.</i><br /><br /><i>We are aware that the university of authors has incurred expenses on their research. But, we are an independent organisation where we do not receive funding from any group. The article entitled 'Perceived barriers and enablers to physical activity in postpartum women: A qualitative approach' was reviewed thrice including proof correction which requires the input of Editors, Reviewers, Associate Managing Editors, Editorial Assistants, Editorial Managing System & other online article tracking systems to manage the review & author proof process, which made impossible for us to bear the cost.</i><br /><br /><i>If authors wish to withdraw their article at the final stage of publication by making our efforts go in vain. Then how can a journal sustain. Therefore, we have recently decided to charge the authors 10% of our total expenses on their article as a fee for withdrawal & we have clearly mentioned it in the instruction for authors page in our website. I am quite sure that any author who wants to publish his manuscript into a particular journal will go through all the necessary details & instructions given for the authors.</i><br /><br /><i>Hope you understand. As said previously we do concern for our authors as they are our utmost priority. Article referred 'Perceived barriers and enablers to physical activity in postpartum women: A qualitative approach’ is exempted from the charges.</i><br /><br />The above statement would also seem to imply that, contrary to the earlier comment by Srinubabu Gedela, OMICS does in fact operate a withdrawal fee for its journals. The wording <a href="http://www.scitechnol.com/instructionsforauthors-womens-health-issues-care.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> reads as follows:<br /><br /><b><i>If authors wish to retract their paper after rigorous review and revisions, he/she will be labelled to pay 10% of the total expenses on their article as a fee for processing.</i></b><br /><br />On the other hand, it is not clear to me that the fee applies to journals other than the one Maryam submitted to. See <a href="http://www.scitechnol.com/instructionsforauthors-primary-acquired-immunodeficiency-research.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.scitechnol.com/instructionsforauthors-geoinformatics-geostatistics.php" rel="nofollow">here</a> for instance.Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-19172056352763008042015-09-04T10:28:04.518+00:002015-09-04T10:28:04.518+00:00Dear Richard,
I would like to thank you for the v...Dear Richard,<br /><br />I would like to thank you for the valuable time you have spent to help me to withdraw my paper. I am seeking advice from our legal department at university. This forum is so wonderful and supportive. I have learnt a valuable lesson; still awaiting result though. Despite everything that has happened I am so glad that I got to know you. It would be good if there could be an approach to raise awareness amongst researchers (e.g. a campaign) about these predatory journals. I will update once receive an outcome.<br /><br />Many Thanks for everything.<br /><br />Maryam Maryamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-55018429540166599822015-09-02T07:23:13.828+00:002015-09-02T07:23:13.828+00:00Hi Richard,
Thanks for your comment. No I have no...Hi Richard,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. No I have not asked them as they were very straightforward in rejecting payment to this journal. I keep looking on their website and there is no mention of withdrawal fee! I am hoping that with your help I would get this paper withdrawn. I feel very sorry that I have got myself in this situation.<br /><br />Many Thanks,<br /><br />MaryamMaryamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-34873341768097700462015-08-28T07:08:12.054+00:002015-08-28T07:08:12.054+00:00Hi Maryam,
I do not think it would be advisable t...Hi Maryam,<br /><br />I do not think it would be advisable to submit a paper that has been accepted by one journal to another journal until it has been withdrawn from the first journal. Have you asked your university to help you in this matter?<br /><br />RichardRichard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-86311389364252615542015-08-28T06:06:21.748+00:002015-08-28T06:06:21.748+00:00Thanks Richard for your email and comment, This li...Thanks Richard for your email and comment, This link is OMICS related publisher<br /><br />http://www.scitechnol.com/womens-health-issues-care.php <br /><br />I also come up with this question:<br />I have written to them that I'd like to withdraw my manuscript,considering who they are and no mention of withdrawal fee when I submitted as well as university does not recognise them could I submit to any other journals?<br /><br />Many Thanks,<br /><br />Maryam<br /><br /> Maryamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961882.post-8646328286636817582015-08-26T08:54:47.736+00:002015-08-26T08:54:47.736+00:00Following Maryam’s comment above I emailed OMICS’ ...Following Maryam’s comment above I emailed OMICS’ Srinubabu Gedela thus:<br /><br /><i>I wonder if you could please provide a comment on OMICS’ new withdrawal fee that I could post <a href="http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/open-access-interviews-omics-publishing.html?showComment=1440573246688#c7774146507564358360" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</i><br /><br /><i>I do not know of any other publisher that levies such a fee, and people will suspect that you have introduced it because many researchers submit papers to OMICS’ journals without knowing/being told that doing so will incur an article-processing fee.</i><br /><br />==<br /><br />I received the following reply:<br /><br /><i>Dear Richard,</i><br /><br /><i>Thanks for your query. You are doing an excellent job by getting this type of comments to our notice. There is no article withdrawal fee. However, if the correspond editorial team has done the extensive work of two times three times revisions to improve the quality of the article followed by design of PDF, full text formats and assigning DOI then they may ask the compensation for their tough grind work </i><br /><br /><i>We are using the <a href="http://www.editorialmanager.com/homepage/home.htm" rel="nofollow">Editorial Manager</a> software for quality review process, for that we are paying $10 to 20 followed by investment of four to five man hours to get the good quality article output.</i> <br /><br /><i>It is the case of one in 10,000. According to my knowledge it was happened first time.</i><br /><br /><i>Dr Srinubabu</i><br /><br />Jeffrey Beall drew attention to the fact that OMICS had started to levy withdrawal fees in May (<a href="http://scholarlyoa.com/2015/05/28/omics-group-now-charging-for-article-withdrawals/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). In that case the fee requested was $419.<br /><br />Researchers, let's be careful out there!Richard Poynderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433823131339077354noreply@blogger.com